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Episode 30 –
Using CTV Measurement to Create a Better Experience and Collect Valuable Data With Tal Chalozin of Innovid

RESOURCE CENTER   ❯   Identity Revolution Podcast 4-21-22

Episode Summary

Over the last decade, there has been a significant shift from linear TV to CTV. And this transformation has allowed marketers to collect more data while providing a better user experience.

But what will the future of CTV advertising look like?

In this episode of Infutor’s Identity Revolution podcast, our host Cory Davis welcomes Tal Chalozin, the CTO and co-founder of Innovid, an adtech firm focused on the creative optimization and measurement of video ad serving. They talk about the inevitable switch from linear TV to CTV, why measurement will play a crucial part in this transformation, and the main predictions for the future of CTV.


Tal Chalozin
  • Name: Tal Chalozin
  • What he does: He’s the CTO and co-founder of Innovid.
  • Company: Innovid
  • Key Quote: “Life’s too short to do boring things, and we just try to spice it up and make it as interesting as possible.”
  • Where to find Tal: LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram

Key Insights

  • The development of CTV unlocked more data and a better user experience. The transformation from linear TV to CTV was inevitable. And everyone expected it to happen sooner or later. But the biggest benefit of this transformation is the ability to provide a much better TV experience on the web. Tal explains, “One of the biggest things is that there will be a lot more data going back and forth, and you can improve the experience. The experience means that the ad could be better personalized, interactive, shoppable, and rotating the right messages to you. So there are many manifestations of that, but what we really thought about is that it needs to be a better experience, both for marketers and for viewers.”
  • The role of measurement in the digital transformation from television into streaming. As television moves into streaming, viewers and marketers have more opportunities than before. When it comes to marketers, they can finally have a unified view across both linear and connected television. Tal says, “We believe that measurement will play a key part in this transformation into streaming, as more and more marketers understand that they can measure more and they would like to correlate more business metrics with their marketing spend.”
  • It doesn’t have to be a winner-takes-all market. With more and more companies embracing CTV advertising, an important question arises: who will be the top innovators in the field? Tal thinks there doesn’t have to be only one tech giant. “I wouldn’t say it’s a winner-takes-all market, meaning there could be multiple. Again, I’m multidimensional. It could be multiple companies that will each take a single layer here or multiple layers, and a client can pick and choose. And also, seeing what’s going on right now, it’s not that there’s a single company that needs to own the whole market. So the bottom line is I think that the future will be much more fragmented than it is right now, with different companies selling technology that is related to data and its visualization and tools that are on top of that data – planning, forecasting, campaign measurement, and campaign analytics.”

Episode Highlights

The switch from linear TV to CTV was inevitable and expected.

“We started back in ’07, a little after Google acquired YouTube, and that was the time that Hulu was kind of in inception mode. And back then, the idea of the television moving to the internet seemed like a pipe dream. But it was obvious for us that it would happen. We had no clue what the components of it would be. Obviously, a lot of things are pending right now, but it is obvious that for the lion’s share of time people will spend watching television, so this experience will not go away, but it will get replaced by a different cable.”

Everyone understands that CTV is the future.

“The biggest thing is to explain what I just described (the switch to CTV), clearly and in a much more in-depth manner, to a lot more public market investors that were pleasantly surprised to see that everyone is unanimous – that everyone understands that this will happen. We thought that we would need to explain to people about this transformation, but thanks to Roku and Netflix and many other companies like Disney+, streaming is a given. No one is actually challenging that.”

More types of advertisers

“There are the main advertisers in linear television, but we were always sure that as television moved to streaming, it will not only create a better experience for viewers and for marketers, but also open the floodgates to many more types of advertisers and would lower the barrier to entry.”

Will the future of television look like TV or like digital?

“Here comes digital that did a lot of things, but one big thing about this conundrum of the buying-and-sales side is that it pushed a lot into the buy-side. Programmatic, DNP, and many other things pushed a lot of technology to the buy side. I think an interesting step — if you kind of study history and say what the future would be — is just fast-forward, we’re clearly kind of in a musical-chair-type of moment in what would the future look like? It’s an interesting question. Will the future of television look like television or look like digital? So that’s one very interesting thing, at least considering the two sides. Who will be the bigger buyer of technology, and who will be the owner of more data?”

Top quotes:

[3:38] “It needs to be a better experience, both for marketers and for viewers. We set out on a journey to do that. Then we didn’t really pivot in 15 years. We stayed true to what we said back in July 2007, which was that we want to create better TV experiences on the web, and that is what we’re doing.”

[11:33] “There’s a lot of new technology that enables different attributes and different capabilities to be measured, and the whole streaming world is in its infancy or still in early innings. So a lot of the shaping of the industries is happening right now.”

[17:30] “I’m sure everyone listening is somewhat partaking in the marketing, and specifically the marketing technology space. I’m sure it’s not news that the market is super dynamic. Every day, you open whatever publication you read; there’s something, somewhat shocking, that is happening. So it’s not news that this is rapidly changing.”

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